October 26, 2023
The Grand Plan
Back in 2016, Al and I both cycled the Pyrenees, but not together. I rode solo from Barcelona to Bilbao, loosely following Team Anderson's route from their trip in 2014; my journal is here. Al rode with his cycling group (Veni Velo Vici or VVV) from Biarritz to Girona. I carried all my gear and camped, though I ate out, while Al's group paid the expenses of a couple of non-cycling relatives to drive a support vehicle, provide lunches on the road, etc., while they rode bigger distances on light road bikes. We've both been wanting to go back...which brings us to the plan for spring 2024.
I've been reading other Cycleblazers' stories about their rides in the Spanish Pyrenees and want to go there too. So I suggested my idea to Al. (Al doesn't read journals, not even mine. So theoretically I could say anything and he'd never know--unless one of his VVV buddies who does read these tells him.)
Al was keen because climbing is involved, though a bit concerned about Spanish mealtimes. We will have to work out a food plan, since almost half our days will be in Spain!
So what did we (I) come up with? Our usual ambitious days, due to my wanting to go everywhere and Al's not wanting to be away too long, of course!
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I've created a few options (alternatives), usually when the preferred route includes some dirt or gravel which we may or may not want to do on the day. Rain + dirt = mud, so that's one reason! I've also included a few day rides, generally those without numbers and usually called "day ride" or "loop" or OAB. Most of these are in the high Pyrenees and are rides we'd really prefer to do unloaded. Actually, it would be great to do the entire trip unloaded, but that's not in the budget!
I dithered quite a bit about the eastern part of the loop. It just seemed a shame to go all the way to the Mediterranean and not ride at least some of the spectacular coast. Kathleen Classen's photos made the decision easy. Thanks, Kathleen!
So, I'm putting this out there in case anyone wants to offer feedback. I know it's ambitious, but there are some rest days planned. There's also a lot of climbing, but we live in a not-flat part of the world (and RWGPS elevation gain numbers are almost always higher than reality, in our experience).
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I’ve got a couple of suggestions you might consider though. First, I’d start in Bilbao rather than Biarritz and in fact wouldn’t go to Biarritz at all. It struck us as just a big name touristy hotspot and and the coast between there and Saint Jean de Luz felt pretty featureless - but that’s us, and that’s pretty old news too at this point. Seeing the Fenwicks’ description of it from last week didn’t change my mind on it though. Instead, I’d cut west toward Saint Jean de Luz from somewhere inland, maybe by way of Espelette and Saint Pee Sur Nivelle.
Secondly, I might think again about following the Mediterranean coastline between Collioure and La Selva. I know the Classens just rode it and it’s definitely spectacular, but it’s also pretty exposed without any real bailout options. They went at a pretty quiet time of year and I’d be anxious about how much worse the traffic might be at the time it looks like you’re considering.
Well, and one more thought. I like your route through Navarre and Aragón, but you might rethink your overnights and stay in Olite and Sos del Rey Catolico instead of Sanguesa.
The Pyrenees are so amazing. Wherever you land, I’m sure it will be incredible.
1 year ago
I think we'll be okay on the coast road. I've now created an inland alternative route just in case and we can get a better idea of traffic levels when we're there. Early morning is always an option.
Thanks for the suggestion on Olite and Sos del Rey Catolico. I will revise the plan!
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The RWGPS accuracy is much better in the US, though it tried to take my wife and I into a cement plant near Corvallis, OR, and on a dirt track into the Centralia, WA coal plant (even though I chose "paved only".
Since I've been biking a lot in France, I use Openrunner, which has a great mapping system, and easy to import to a GPS device (Garmin or Wahoo).
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These days, I just use RWGPS elevation gains as upper limits when planning.
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