Day 7: Hastings to Folkestone - Grampies Go To England and France Fall 2022 - CycleBlaze

September 13, 2022

Day 7: Hastings to Folkestone

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We headed directly back to the seaside at Hastings, begin making our way northeast along the coast, to Folkestone.  The beach and water, as always, looked rather Caribbean to me, very attractive. 

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Hastings extends for quite a distance along the waterfront. There are a few fun attractions, such as a pirate themed play park, and the little roller coaster pictured below.

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There is a small hill at the east end of town, with some attractively jumbled houses around it. This hill however is not the end of hills at the east end. Rather there is a fair climb to get out of the Hastings area.

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Harold Road was part of our route up and out of Hastings. The only reason I took this shot is that my brother happens to be named Harold. Although our family is not of English extraction, our grandfather was handed an English name on arrival as an immigrant in Canada, and our parents continued, giving Harold and myself traditional English names. So Harold has some legitimate tie to this region, where possibly the most famous English Harold got himself killed in 1066.

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Toward the top of the climb out of Hastings we passed this fixer upper house. It was not for sale or anything, but with its multiple fireplaces just struck me as a fun potential project.

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From the top of the hill, which is called Battery Hill, there is a view to the valley behind Hastings. We had been wondering why William the Conqueror and Harold would have climbed up to have their battle at Battle, but it seems more likely William landed to the east, and slid along the valley end up at Battle.

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Once back down to the sea, near Petts Level, we could look forward to some flat seaside pedaling.  But we immediately ran into a "road closed" sign, and a proposed diversion way out north and west. Of course, as usual, we ignored this, preferring to have whoever was closing the road prove that it was really impassable. 

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After a few km, we did indeed come upon a crew making a pretty good show of closing the road.  But this was mostly show, as they had only really done a little bit of digging on one side. We went through them with no problem, exchanging jocular greetings as we went.

Sorry, poor focus!
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Despite the ease of crossing the road closure, we did continue to struggle with the English road situation through the day. It's not just the riding on the left side. The big problem is the general narrowness of the roads. This frequently means that even if cars are nominally over on their side, in practice they are swerving right toward you. The sign below acknowledges the problem at one point, on the National Cycle Network.

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We also again ran into the perverse fact that the national cycle network is not something built for cycles, but rather an attempt to find a way for cycles on ways made for something else. For example, approaching Rye, the "cycle" path was clearly a walking path:

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Cycle this if you feel like it, we guess, says NCN.
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OK, she went for it!
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Beth ArtIt's interesting how people have different perspectives of suitable cycling routes. Don't get me wrong I love smooth purpose built cycleways but I also enjoy single tracks through slightly wild places. I found the British cycle routes very interesting and challenging. Never knew what you were going to get next. One track had us riding through a farmyard and right through the farmers barn. We stopped at the gate before entering, wondering where we had gone wrong when the farmer came out and waved us forward. He called out, "Come on this is the right way".
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Steve Miller/GrampiesTo Beth ArtSingle track is just not for us, it is too slow and difficult to get a good rythym so that it feels more like a hard slog and less like a joyful ride. Love the story about the farmyard, but would hate for that to happen to us.
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Steve Miller/GrampiesTo Beth ArtInteresting, Beth. But single track, heavily loaded, on 20 inch wheels just has to suck, at least if you are trying to get anywhere.
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Keith Adams"Have fun storming the castle!"
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We had entered the Romney Marsh, which is famous for sheep, and of course the lamb from them.
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For some time we could see the tower of the church at Lydd. This is sometimes called the Cathedral of the Marsh. For us, it was significant because it was a place where we could eat our lunch out of the rain. It is also one of the longest churches in the country!

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Yes, it's long!
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From this point we again today recognized that our progress though the difficult English roads was not fast enough, as we followed the twiddling NCN routings. So we looked for something that could be usable but shorter. We jumped on a more direct road, but oh oh, much too much traffic and of course no shoulders or other saving grace.

Too much traffic, no shoulders, narrow roads!
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Given this situation, we shifted gears again, and headed directly for the coast, where we had heard there was a causeway, possibly all the way to Folkestone. This at first did not seem quite true.

Not quite the causeway we wanted.
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But yes, the hoped for path did appear, and in fact it turned out to be a beautiful way. It offered the seaside experience, and a dead smooth surface that powered us effectively on our way.

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Wow, seaside route heaven!
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Here below is that seaside route, with the towns along the way.

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Folkestone is again one of those huddled and picturesque places.  Our spot is right in the foreground - the Ship Inn.  The former owners have just retired, but continue to run the B&B, in the back. Our top floor spot in the property features two rooms - a bedroom and a sitting room. These are very comfortable, and both rooms feature large screen TV. Normally this is irrelevant, but this week absolutely everybody, including us, is watching the wall to wall Queen coverage. As we came into the B&B, the owners were watching the coffin being loaded onto a plane in Scotland, and they were observing every detail. I think the Queen may have reached Buckingham Palace by now, and tomorrow will transfer to Westminster to lie in state. The TV is saying people will have to queue for 30 hours if they want to file by! Wow, when were at Buckingham last week we thought we had seen the maximum in terms of crowding. But London in the next days is going to be just insane. As we loop around now toward the city, we will have to actually avoid it!

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Our hosts' TV.
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Our bed in Folkestone - features six pillows.
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Scott AndersonNearly the norm, in our experience. One of our first acts in checking into a room was to chuck four of them into a corner.
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Steve Miller/GrampiesTo Scott AndersonNot sure why there are so many extra pillows, maybe to add a decorator touch. We also just shove them out of the way as fast as possible.
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There is a direct view of the sea out those windows.
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Today's ride: 67 km (42 miles)
Total: 249 km (155 miles)

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John FlecknerLoving your account of the journey. You confirm that a bike tour is always an adventure, sometimes more than not, and sometimes expected and not. Looking forward to the more familiar, to us, France portion of the trip (and hoping we can back sooner than later).
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John FlecknerTo John Fleckneraka Cyclingsanta and Mrs. C -- Bike Friday tandem
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Steve Miller/GrampiesTo John FlecknerHi John. And of course we still remember who you are and your alias. We also think nostalgically of your wonderful food descriptions that had us drooling.
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Mike AylingHi Steve and Dodie

You being along the South Coast reminded me that in the late nineteen sixties I spent three years working in London and weekends cycling and walking in the home counties staying in Youth Hostels with a group which included Mary my wife of 51 years.
There were no GPS apps then and we used the Ordnance Survey 1 inch to the mile for walking and Batholomews half inch to the mile (just over 1:100,000) for cycling. There were far fewer motor vehicles around then and we navigated using the abundance of small roads and lanes and were seldom bothered by motor vehicles.
They were different times!
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Scott AndersonWe came away with a different take on what the NCN network is trying to do. It’s not so much that they’re steering you onto tracks meant for something else as to find a rideable alternative to keeping you off of those narrow, dangerous thoroughfares, which as you’re discovering are no place to be on a bicycle.
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Rich FrasierTo John FlecknerJohn - I’m looking forward to your next trip! I love your writing!
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Steve Miller/GrampiesTo Mike AylingYes, even 10 years ago here we still seemed to make some sort of progress. Today we are shooting for just 44 km and it is not certain we can make it!
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Steve Miller/GrampiesTo John FlecknerFrance would be a real relief now, even if they perversely all do speak French!
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Leo WoodlandHi

You hadn't quite reached Folkestone when you stayed at the Ship Inn, as doubtless you realised when you tackled the hill next morning.

The Ship Inn is in Sandgate, where the tunnel beneath the Channel runs under your feet. It has great significance for me - the Ship, not the tunnel - because it's where I drank my first pint. I spent my last family holidays in Sandgate, a town I still love and visit on the rare occasions I go to England.

You didn't have the weather but, in summer and on a good day, you can just about make out traffic in France. I used to look out and wonder what was over there. Now that I live in France, I look out and see it as home, of course.

Had you gone through Hythe, you'd have seen the wonderful model railway that runs something like 25km along the coast to the Dungeness peninsula. That is a regular for me. A man with a lot of money bought the land and built the tracks along it, complete with signals and stations. The locomotives are largely models of the expresses that ran in England at that period - the 1920s - but there is also at least one Canadian engine.
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