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Retrospective Tour Planning

Graham Smith

High on my list of most annoying technobabble is “forward planning” but I’ll justify its usage by posting an example of “backwards planning”. 

My son and I have just completed a three and half week bike ‘n train trip in Europe. We made up the itinerary on a day-by-day basis. 

I’ve not posted a journal because most of the travel was by train, but we did use our 16” wheeled folding bikes to extensively and intensively tour the cities we visited. So although the trip wasn’t really a cycle tour, it was a tour greatly enhanced by bicycles. The freedom the bikes gave us was significant.

With the clarity only hindsight can provide, I’ve sketched a mud map of our tour which may be of use or interest to others here on CycleBlaze. Especially those with folding bikes.

Our itinerary. About 3 weeks, 4 countries, 7 cities. Train travel and accommodation was booked day- by-day. Only flights to & from Australia were set in advance.
The unpack after the flight to Rome. Fortunately we have friends there who kindly stored the cases for us.
The bikes folded into soft bags for train travel. This could be done, and had to be done in a few minutes. There’s not much advance notice of which platform and carriage location on the high speed European trains.
The dynamic duo. Son Joe and me at Rome Railway Station. Termini.
Google Maps, phone and a Quadlock were very useful.
Not all trains required the bikes to be bagged.
The loaded bikes
Gotta love a country where a folding bike is about the length of a car.
All cities had excellent bike ways. This is Berlin.
Ease of access to popular tourist sites with the bikes. One of numerous places we were able to pedal to.
Local train in the Czech Republic.
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2 months ago
Kathleen JonesTo Graham Smith

What a great way to go. And so nice you could do it with your son. 

The sketch and notes are pretty helpful.

Looks like you had a great time together.

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2 months ago
Rachel and Patrick HugensTo Graham Smith

I think you should publish this as a journal. Many tours (including some we've done) have had interludes of off the bike to do other types of tours (like safari in Africa, or trekking) so are part of the cycle journal. 

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2 months ago
Graham SmithTo Kathleen Jones

Thanks Kathleen. Yes we had a great time. We’d completed a real cycle tour together a few years ago in Taiwan (journal is here on CB), so we’ve had some practice on the cycling part. But this was our first experience with mixing folding bikes with the amazing European rail system. It was challenging at times, but well worth the effort. 

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2 months ago
Graham SmithTo Rachel and Patrick Hugens

Thanks for the encouragement Rachel and Patrick. I did consider journalling as almost every day we cycled, albeit only 10-20 km per day. However the real foci of the trip were the rail system and city sightseeing. 

Although the little folding bikes gave us a lot of extra freedom and flexibility within the cities, the cycling was very much a minor part of the travel compared to rail travel. And we also walked a lot. Some days up to 25km. 

My mud map tries to capture the logistics part of the travel… especially the timing of what’s possible in 3-4 weeks. Our plan was fairly ad hoc, but this information might help others devise similar trips with more certainty than ours.

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2 months ago
Keith ClassenTo Graham Smith

interesting post Graham!  We have been discussing the idea of picking up a couple small folders to do exactly what you did with your son for a different type of travel.   Perhaps even  taking folders on a cruise to explore the various ports.  Thanks for posting. 

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2 months ago
Graham SmithTo Keith Classen

Thanks for the interest Keith. There are many advantages in using small wheeled folding bikes for multi-modal travel. Especially the freedom and flexibility they provide.

Of course there are also a few disadvantages. For example, the set-up cost of the bikes and bags; getting used to a different way of touring, and selecting regions/cities which are most suited to this type of cycle touring. 

Over the past 15 years we seem to have accumulated quite a collection of new and second-hand folding bikes, beginning with my wife’s and my Bike Friday New World Tourists. 20” wheels and the best ride feel. We did an extensive train & bike tour of Japan with these in 2016. 

The 16” wheeled BF Tikits (or Bromptons or similar) are more suitable for the type of tour my son and I just did. They pack fast and compactly, and also good to ride. I prefer the BF over the Brompton for ride quality, but the Brompton folds smaller.

I’d also recommend the Carradice range of bike bags. Especially what they call their SQR system. It’s important to be able to unload the bikes quickly on railway platforms. A large saddle bag and a large front bag, which click on and off, facilitate this. Panniers and racks aren’t so good, as we discovered on our Japan trip. Especially if you are using trains frequently as we did.

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2 months ago
Peter BrownTo Graham Smith

Graham, You should post this in the regular blog. There is valuable info, that will be lost in the forum, including what bicycle gear is best for quick travel. Maybe a "Folding Fun" title. I read the journals for inspiration and also the nitty gritty, how-to and this is where I ate, stayed,camped and if it was good or bad.

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1 month ago
Keith ClassenTo Graham Smith

Thanks Graham for your response and the very useful information regarding  folders as we explore possibilities of traveling in a different way.    We just got home from our recent tour on our regular sized bikes.   On our tour I spoke to someone riding a Brompton and he mentioned that Brompton has come out with a new 20 inch wheel model.    So definitely going to check that out with the local dealers.    Really great that you were able to do the tour with your son.     I agree with others that it would have made a very interesting journal to follow.   Including your train experiences which as we all know can add to the adventure. 

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Graham SmithTo Peter Brown

Peter thanks for the encouragement. In hindsight, I should have journaled our tour and focussed the blog on the cycling sections.

 The conundrum is that we covered most kilometres by train, but we spent far more hours getting about on our bikes than we did on trains.

I might do a journal to capture the parts of the journey which were cycle touring. 

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